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255 – The Human Lie Detector and The Hard Man

The Human Lie Detector and The Hard Man - The Adelaide Show Podcast 255

This week’s episode of The Adelaide Show, The Human Lie Detector and The Hard Man, will explore deception and how to spot it with Steve Van Aperen, and many aspects of physicality, from survival on deployment as an Australian soldier, coordinating mind and body with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and tasting wine deeply with your senses on overdrive with Ash Sinclair.

This week, we have TWO SA Drinks Of The Week from Parade Cellars.

In IS IT NEWS, Nigel challenges us on stories about physical fitness training.

In 100 Weeks Ago, we take you back to our night with Sarah Bleby from the Adelaide Guitar Festival along with blues legend, Cal Williams Junior.

And in the musical pilgrimage … we have a brand new song from Fergus Maximus.

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Running Sheet: The Human Lie Detector and The Hard Man

00:00:00 Outtake
Write Nigel’s Tinder bio
Theme and Introduction. Our original theme song in full is here, Adelaidey-hoo.
00:02:38 SA Drink Of The Week
Koerner Classico 2016 Clare Valley and 2015 Toby Bekkers Syrah McLaren Vale … tasting notes
00:24:03 Stories Without Notice – Steve Van Aperen

During filming of Is This Thing On in Melbourne last week, I met The Human Lie Detector, Steve Van Aperen. Here’s our brief chat about detecting deception, a skill he started honing while working for the South Australia Police.

Steve Van Aperen interrogating Steve Davis - The Adelaide Show Podcast 255

00:36:04 Ash Sinclair

I met Ash Sinclair at iNform Health and Fitness Solutions when he became my trainer. I was a fairly hopeless student but we had some great conversations about life, the army, jui jitsu, music, and, above all, wine. So, as we prepare to close the Adelaide Show, I was keen to capture a conversation with Ash and distil some insights about mind over body, body over mind, and body and mind working together.

Can we please get your history right. What has your involvement in the Australian Army been? I know I’ve often made wrong assumptions.

How intense is the physical training? My only knowledge is from Full Metal Jacket, Stripes, and Hogan’s Heroes.

I ask because I was struck by that bitterly cold morning recently and thought, I would not have any choice if I were on deployment? What were your least favourite deployments – or is that not the way to look at it?

Can you prepare without actually being immersed. For example, hot steamy rainforests. Do you need to stay in them or can you train elsewhere?

Spiders, snakes, and bugs. Do they affect you? Is this mind over matter?

How do you keep energy up on deployment? Are rations really small?

How quickly do you acclimatise to civilian life? I ask because I see AFL footballers just a year or two after retiring already losing shape.

You said you sometimes get people pretending to be ex-military turn up to your martial arts studio. What are their giveaway signs?

What is the best way for those who don’t serve or haven’t served, to mark ANZAC Day?

You run a martial arts academy – what “flavour” is it.

What makes it unique.

What sort of people respond best to it

Can you use those skills in real life?

01:41:45 Is It News?

Nigel Dobson-Keeffe challenges the panel to pick the fake story from three stories from South Australia’s past.


01:50:12 100 Weeks Ago
We opened the vault to go back 100 weeks to our night with Sarah Bleby from the Adelaide Guitar Festival along with blues legend, Cal Williams Junior. We talked about many things that night, from ways of learning guitar to its roots in slave history. But tonight, I thought we’d play a snippet about lubricating fingers.
01:54:15 Musical Pilgrimage
And our song this week is Accumulator by Fergus Maximus, selected by Fergus on behalf of our musical curator, Todd Fischer.

The album is called Restless Soles. It’s an anthology of short stories about people with itchy feet and the road in their eyes; about love, loss and memory and the things we hold on to.
Musically, the album is really varied. There are bouncy pop things, some soulful tracks with a horn section and gospel-inspired backing vocals, some rowdy pop/rock songs, a couple of sparse ballads and a couple of things with strings!
The attached track is called Accumulator and it’s one of the fun ones. It’s a soulful tune which features the Restless Horns (Alex Taylor (trombone), Rob Chenoweth (trumpet), Jason McMahon (tenor sax) and Alex Musolino (alto sax)) and a vocal cameo from the wonderful Gail Page.
Organ on that track (and all organs and piano parts on the album) is by my brother, the brilliant, Mark Simeon Ferguson. There’s every chance you’ve come across him before. He’s head of jazz at Adelaide Uni (Elder Conservatorium) and was musical director for the opening and closing galas of the Cabaret Festival!
The wonderful, sinuous bassline is by my friend and long-time collaborator, Jamie Harrison. We’ve been playing together for over 20 years but I’ve actually known him since before he was born because our parents are friends. Jamie works with all kinds of folks and is involved in a trio called trifle which includes terrific local guitarist, Ian Lehmann. When I needed another guitarist for the sessions, Ian graciously agreed to help out (he’s an incredible player).
My brother Mark was going to do the horn arrangements for the album but ran out of time (mostly because of that pesky Cabaret Festival). I decided to keep it in the extended family and ended up getting the charts done by Ian’s brother, the wonderful Glyn Lehmann (composer/arranger and the french horn/keyboard player from Tall Stories/Seven Stories who I followed in the 80s).
And in a lovely symmetry, both Ian and Glyn Lehmann performed on my dad’s albums in the early 80s.
Adelaide is awesome.
The launch gig is on Friday 13th of July (an auspicious date, obviously) at the Wheatsheaf Hotel, 39 George St, Thebarton SA, with Alison Coppe (of The Janes) as very special guest and the Los Pinchos Locos foodtruck out the front. Tickets are available via Moshtix as part of Music SA’s Umbrella Winter City Sounds and Adelaide Guitar Festival’s Guitars In Bars.
02:03:46 Outtake

Here is this week’s preview video:

SFX: Throughout the podcast we use free sfx from for the harp, the visa stamp, the silent movie music, the stylus, the radio signal sfx, the wine pouring and cork pulling sfx, and the swooshes around Siri.

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